Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Dayganistan wrote:This is why I just use all real world equipment so if people need to know its capabilities they can just refer to the Wikipedia article. No derailing the thread to stat wank.

Unironic point: Half the bitchfests in II wars are due to people coming in with a wanking competition in mind rather than seeing it as cooperative writing.

^Very much this

Not saying you can’t treat NS as a strategy game of sorts, but there are certain RP groups and regions that are rather notorious for how toxic they are regarding this sort of competitive "gamey" type of RP

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:

Dayganistan wrote:This is why I just use all real world equipment so if people need to know its capabilities they can just refer to the Wikipedia article. No derailing the thread to stat wank.

Unironic point: Half the bitchfests in II wars are due to people coming in with a wanking competition in mind rather than seeing it as cooperative writing.

Only half? Nah. All of them.

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Aeritai wrote:

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Hang on, let me just

Ah I forgot Hero Forge existed, I wonder if they have bipedal deer legs. Cause I need a better picture for the Kurnami.

They have generic hooves, if that works.

I just realized that Dogboi is wearing khakis like Jake from State Farm.

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Brettenwald wrote:

Aeritai wrote:
Ah I forgot Hero Forge existed, I wonder if they have bipedal deer legs. Cause I need a better picture for the Kurnami.

They have generic hooves, if that works.

I guess that works.

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:

Austria-Bohemia-Hungary wrote:Unironic point: Half the bitchfests in II wars are due to people coming in with a wanking competition in mind rather than seeing it as cooperative writing.

Only half? Nah. All of them.

Hey, now, c’mon

I exist

Aureumterra III wrote:

Western Fardelshufflestein wrote:Only half? Nah. All of them.

Hey, now, c’mon

I exist

OK, most of them. Quality II threads exist.

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Menschlicher Sternenstaat wrote:

Valentine Z wrote:Nah, not that. I mean... I don't think so? I have never seen nations getting a copyright-strike.

I'm just paranoid, and also because I want to give credit to the best of my ability. ♥

Back in 2016 or so, some random deviantart guy forced the Moderation team to delete one of my old nation's factbooks (or clear it? i dont remember) because it had his art without citation. Giving credit is good and all, but it begs the question of if they just sit on Google Images and search all their shit over and over again.

Oh man, that sucks. I hope Moderation at least asked you politely first. I mean, it is unfair to delete the entire factbook for just one image.

I can understand crediting and copyrighting images, that is totally okay. You want to make sure that your work is not sold off by a third-party shady wallpaper site, or something like that. Still, what kind of gain will you get from going after a guy who is clearly doing it for hobby without any profit (after all, no commercialization here).

To be fair, that was without citation, but to be fair to you, he could have at least asked that you cite it. Ahh, c'est la vie.

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Which is also why I am deathly afraid of such things, and to have local backups of everything I do. I credit as best as I can from games to companies to individual artists, doing my best to use public images instead of commissioned / private stuff. So my rule is that if it is publicly searchable on Google, I can and want to use it while giving credit to you, the source.

If not... ahh, there is always Sims 4. Sims 4 happens to the best fallback solution I have if I cannot use the appearance of an art-piece. If EA chased me down, touch wood, I am screwed.

And there is always Thispersondoesnotexist.com.

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NS Cliches cliché...snarking about NSG: Welp. I just finished lurking around the "White Supremacy discussion thread". I feel disappointed with myself for not being emotionally intelligent enough to participate in NSG often, knowing my temper. On the other hand, damn what a dumpster fire! I want 6 minutes of my life back. There was nothing fun about that...

*Ahem, back to worldbuilding.*

I wanna thank Zeloria and KG for introducing me to Isaac Arthur. Their alien videos have been really handy when it comes to trying to brainstorm up xenofiction. I'm not gonna do it though, I feel I don't have enough time to think of extraordinarily inhuman intelligences with inscrutable motives.

I guess mish-mashing previously existing human societies and trying to not think of Medieval fiction like a cheesy JRPG will have to do when I imagine anthros. How would anthros view clothing anyways? Would they regulate heat normally, being covered in fur and all? Oh god, I'm over thinking stupid stuff again...

Cliche: Thinking of ideas only to scrap them/leave them as thoughts.

_{I can't decide how I want to go about expanding on the factbook for the different races of Azur Deutschland.}

unique cultural details? public perceptions?
there's something to be said for the (very violent) de-Nazification of Azur Deutschland and how the races Azur basically created are viewed in the public eye, but that might be a bit too... granular, ig.

how they were engineered and introduced on a societal scale might be interesting lore.

Azur Deutschland wrote:Cliche: Thinking of ideas only to scrap them/leave them as thoughts.

_{I can't decide how I want to go about expanding on the factbook for the different races of Azur Deutschland.}

I've always found it useful to write down my flow of consciousness when I have an idea. Even if you're just typing nonsense or whatever comes to mind, you'll be surprised by how many directions you can come up with.

I would personally like to know how the different magical races interact with one another in broader society, slice-of-life style. Maybe even featuring short prose like you did with the Azur Twin's background.

I'd like to know how magical creatures would feel if they were transported to another dimension where their powers don't work.

Kiu Ghesik wrote:unique cultural details? public perceptions?
there's something to be said for the (very violent) de-Nazification of Azur Deutschland and how the races Azur basically created are viewed in the public eye, but that might be a bit too... granular, ig.

how they were engineered and introduced on a societal scale might be interesting lore.

I was going over in my head about how they were created and stuff, but I kept scrapping the idea because it just seemed weird to me the more I wrote it. I realized it started leaving myself with more questions, lol.

503 wrote:I've always found it useful to write down my flow of consciousness when I have an idea. Even if you're just typing nonsense or whatever comes to mind, you'll be surprised by how many directions you can come up with.

I should probably do that more often, lol. I remember having to do that a lot in writing classes when I was in school.
Would definitely help.

I would personally like to know how the different magical races interact with one another in broader society, slice-of-life style. Maybe even featuring short prose like you did with the Azur Twin's background.

If I can get my walnut brain to think more, I'd definitely do something like that. I don't want to make empty promises, but it might be something to look forward to.

Las Palmeras wrote:I'd like to know how magical creatures would feel if they were transported to another dimension where their powers don't work.

Probs ver sad.
Serious note, I just might go with a route similar to that of like an isekai or Hellboy like you mentioned earlier. With the concept of the 'witch world' from Azur Mondlicht and how its magical energy bleeds into other worlds, that might give me some more ideas on how to implement that.

Azur Deutschland wrote:Serious note, I just might go with a route similar to that of like an isekai or Hellboy like you mentioned earlier. With the concept of the 'witch world' from Azur Mondlicht and how its magical energy bleeds into other worlds, that might give me some more ideas on how to implement that.

I have the opposite planned for Tohorin:
The OP heroes and villains or factions of the usual isekai stories being transported to a weird Wild West and getting their asses handed to them by the locals. Especially the slaver empire.
...
I guess the Saucer Pilots is the only nation I'd feel comfy on interacting with magic. Gravity-related Clarketech and interdimensional portal travel are just that big of equalizers.

Azur Deutschland wrote:Cliche: Thinking of ideas only to scrap them/leave them as thoughts.

I relate to this on a painful level

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Las Palmeras wrote:I have the opposite planned for Tohorin:
The OP heroes and villains or factions of the usual isekai stories being transported to a weird Wild West and getting their asses handed to them by the locals. Especially the slaver empire.

That would be quite an interesting twist, tbh.
The way I'm imagining it, it could get real dark and grim really quickly.

Azur Deutschland wrote:

Las Palmeras wrote:I have the opposite planned for Tohorin:
The OP heroes and villains or factions of the usual isekai stories being transported to a weird Wild West and getting their asses handed to them by the locals. Especially the slaver empire.

That would be quite an interesting twist, tbh.
The way I'm imagining it, it could get real dark and grim really quickly.

I just really wanted to explore the idea of the usual isekai demi-human-enslaving empires facing enemies in unknown lands that they can't beat. There's a reason why attempting to enslave the Plains Indians, Chichimeca and even the Puebloans failed badly IRL. Unless an enemy can industrialize farms, make trains or drill groundwater...I'll have the Tohorinese "win" by default.

Hell, the idea of communities of escaped slaves in frontier lands that occasionally cooperate and/or fight with natives is also a very interesting idea which I seldom find in F7, but there's plenty of RL examples to mold it off of, maybe not in North America but there are a lot of cases in Brazil and Central America.

PS: The idea of enslaved "beast men" actually becomes even stupider now that I recall that a lot of LNs and anime shows seem to base the "primitive" demi-humans off Native Americans.

Las Palmeras wrote:I just really wanted to explore the idea of the usual isekai demi-human-enslaving empires facing enemies in unknown lands that they can't beat. There's a reason why attempting to enslave the Plains Indians, Chichimeca and even the Puebloans failed badly IRL. Unless an enemy can industrialize farms, make trains or drill groundwater...I'll have the Tohorinese "win" by default.

ngl, I interpreted that other statement the other way. I think I mainly read it as isekai heroes getting beaten by local slave empires.

Hell, the idea of communities of escaped slaves in frontier lands that occasionally cooperate and/or fight with natives is also a very interesting idea which I seldom find in F7, but there's plenty of RL examples to mold it off of, maybe not in North America but there are a lot of cases in Brazil and Central America.

I don't think I'm really qualified to say anything about that as I don't really know much about that, but it does seem to be an interesting idea to see. Definitely would be unconventional and new here in F7.

Azur Deutschland wrote:ngl, I interpreted that other statement the other way. I think I mainly read it as isekai heroes getting beaten by local slave empires.

No, the isekai heroes will get beaten by the Tohorinese...the heroes are at the service of a foreign kingdom or guild and they're over-stepping their boundaries as trespassers. Maybe I'll write about the knightly types defending settlers or serfs in the frontiers but the Tohorinese are defending their homeland. With every raid, ritual torture, and call for tribal revenge against the foreigners who slay family, the Tohorinese are still the "good guys".

If I wanna be optimistic, I may write about defining treaties or borders between the Tohorinese clans or a Federation and the "good" kingdoms, but even there, it'll be a tense peace at best and at the later parts of history. Maybe when the evil Demon Lord appears or something.

Damn..all the neat ideas happen when I'm supposed to be working on my thesis. Not when I have a lot of free time and nothing to do.

Valentine Z wrote:Note to self and everyone: Never ever give yourself a deadline for your personal project.

Work, School, etc, that's okay, there are deadlines that are set by teachers (and your boss). For personal projects, NEVER ever say that "I will finish this tomorrow. For reals."

Deadlines WILL give your work a kiss of WIP 90% of the time.

Hey, past Val.

So yeah, I gave myself a deadline last night! I told myself I will try to expand one of my character's lore. For The Sixty, each of the characters have a 60,000 char limit each post, I bloody well am going to use all of it. I was going to do it tonight, but nope, I ended up playing Call of Pripyat.

That is all for now.

Las Palmeras wrote:No, the isekai heroes will get beaten by the Tohorinese...the heroes are at the service of a foreign kingdom or guild and they're over-stepping their boundaries as trespassers. Maybe I'll write about the knightly types defending settlers or serfs in the frontiers but the Tohorinese are defending their homeland. With every raid, ritual torture, and call for tribal revenge against the foreigners who slay family, the Tohorinese are still the "good guys".

If I wanna be optimistic, I may write about defining treaties or borders between the Tohorinese clans or a Federation and the "good" kingdoms, but even there, it'll be a tense peace at best and at the later parts of history. Maybe when the evil Demon Lord appears or something.

Ah, gotcha. I know you had to spell it out for me, but it's clicking in my head now. Sorry for my walnut brain not really understanding.
I feel really dumb, but that's okay.

Azur Deutschland wrote:Ah, gotcha. I know you had to spell it out for me, but it's clicking in my head now. Sorry for my walnut brain not really understanding.
I feel really dumb, but that's okay.

Don't worry about it. I don't blame you. Sometimes I add things that should be "PS" thoughts after the subject changes. I monologue in my head.